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+<h1>Mailing Lists</h1>
<p>There are four Mesa 3D / DRI mailing lists:
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<ul>
-<li><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-announce"
-target="_parent">mesa3d-announce</a> - announcements of new Mesa
-versions are sent to this list.
-</li>
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-<li><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-users"
-target="_parent">mesa3d-users</a> - intended for users of the Mesa and DRI.
-Newbie questions are appropriate, but please try the general OpenGL
+<li><a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-users"
+target="_parent">mesa-users</a> - intended for end-users of Mesa and DRI
+drivers. Newbie questions are OK, but please try the general OpenGL
resources and Mesa/DRI documentation first.
</li>
<br>
-<li><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev"
-target="_parent">mesa3d-dev</a> - for discussion of Mesa and Direct Rendering
-Infrastructure development. Not for beginners.
+<li><a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev"
+target="_parent">mesa-dev</a> - for Mesa, Gallium and DRI development
+discussion. Not for beginners.
</li>
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<li><a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-commit"
target="_parent">mesa-commit</a> - relays git check-in messages
(for developers).
+In general, people should not post to this list.
+</li>
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-Note: the old mesa3d-cvs list is no longer in use.
+<li><a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-announce"
+target="_parent">mesa-announce</a> - announcements of new Mesa
+versions are sent to this list. Very low traffic.
</li>
</ul>
-<p>For mailing lists about Direct Rendering Modules (drm) in Linux/BSD
-kernels, see <a href="http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MailingLists">wiki</a>.
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+<b>NOTE</b>: You <b>must</b> subscribe to these lists in order to post to them.
+If you try to post to a list and you're not a subscriber (or if you try to post
+from a different email address than you subscribed with) your posting will be
+held for an indefinite period or may be discarded entirely.
+</p>
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+Follow the links above for list archives.
+</p>
<p>
-<b>Notice</b>: non-member posts to any of these lists will be automatically
-rejected.
+The old Mesa lists hosted at SourceForge are no longer in use.
+The archives are still available, however:
+<a href="http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mesa3d-announce" target="_parent">mesa3d-announce</a>,
+<a href="http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mesa3d-users" target="_parent">mesa3d-users</a>,
+<a href="http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mesa3d-dev" target="_parent">mesa3d-dev</a>.
+</p>
+
+
+<p>For mailing lists about Direct Rendering Modules (drm) in Linux/BSD
+kernels, see the
+<a href="http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MailingLists" target="_parent">
+DRI wiki</a>.
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