Re: [libre-riscv-dev] daily kan-ban 07may2020 update

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+Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton schreef op vr 08-05-2020 om 10:08 [+0100]:
+> > 0.18um TSMC MPW runs are done at least once a month. You can find the s=
+chedule online: https://europractice-ic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Gene=
+ral-MPW-EUROPRACTICE-200505-v8.pdf
+>=20
+> so everyone is aware: these general 180nm MPW runs are not EUR 600 /sq.mm=
+ (the subsidised cost via Staf).  they're 2-3x that level: aroundEUR 1100 t=
+o 1500
+>=20
+> Yehowshua wrote:
+> > And worst case scenario, I can acquire the needed funds for testing the=
+ chip from alternative funding sources no problem.
+>=20
+> this is good - it would however not be at the EUR 600 / sq.mm level,it wo=
+uld be at double that, and also likely need Staf's paid-forassistance (if y=
+ou're up for that, Staf?) to act as a firebreak forthe NDAs.
+
+I don't subsidize the MPW runs I just charge the imec price to NLNet. I don=
+'t include normal industrial markup on the price for NLNet and just charge =
+the (projected) time needed for the tape-out.
+The cost is a little over the =E2=82=AC600/mm=C2=B2 without packaging of th=
+e chips. For TSMC tape-out there is a minimum area charge of 25mm=C2=B2. Fo=
+r packaging you can go for semi-automatic packaging with a high cost per ch=
+ip; prices are here. For high volume you have low per unit packaging cost (=
+<$0.5/unit) but a start-up cost of over $5000.
+
+greets,
+Staf.
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