From: Jean-Paul Chaput Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 08:17:25 +0000 (+0200) Subject: Re: [libre-riscv-dev] extremely busy crowdsupply update started X-Git-Url: https://git.libre-soc.org/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=6a0d2436deaa22bc524153301bc73d1b1ceff4f9;p=libre-riscv-dev.git Re: [libre-riscv-dev] extremely busy crowdsupply update started --- diff --git a/81/29cef1179adbbd7d6f7878dffd7f26fa2a0199 b/81/29cef1179adbbd7d6f7878dffd7f26fa2a0199 new file mode 100644 index 0000000..d5b8183 --- /dev/null +++ b/81/29cef1179adbbd7d6f7878dffd7f26fa2a0199 @@ -0,0 +1,153 @@ +Return-path: +Envelope-to: publicinbox@libre-riscv.org +Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 09:17:40 +0100 +Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=libre-riscv.org) + by libre-riscv.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) + (envelope-from ) + id 1jJC5b-00036W-27; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 09:17:39 +0100 +Received: from isis.lip6.fr ([132.227.60.2]) + by libre-riscv.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) + (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) + id 1jJC5Y-00036Q-Oe + for libre-riscv-dev@lists.libre-riscv.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 09:17:36 +0100 +Received: from asim.lip6.fr (asim.lip6.fr [132.227.86.2]) + by isis.lip6.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 02V8HZb7009255 + (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) + for ; + Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:17:35 +0200 (CEST) +Received: from localhost (melon [132.227.103.13]) + by asim.lip6.fr (8.15.2/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 02V8HZsT000541 + for ; + Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:17:35 +0200 (MEST) +Message-ID: <752371e7a9de77d78305af838989817bfec4fda8.camel@lip6.fr> +From: Jean-Paul Chaput +To: libre-riscv-dev@lists.libre-riscv.org +Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:17:25 +0200 +In-Reply-To: +References: + <8fb9dbcc812d3d7050c6e336dc9bf68f88536888.camel@gmail.com> + + +Organization: UPMC +X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-5.el7) +Mime-Version: 1.0 +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 + (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]); Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:17:35 +0200 (CEST) +X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 132.227.60.2 +X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 +Subject: Re: [libre-riscv-dev] extremely busy crowdsupply update started +X-BeenThere: libre-riscv-dev@lists.libre-riscv.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Libre-RISCV General Development + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Reply-To: Libre-RISCV General Development + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1554574548999933317==" +Errors-To: libre-riscv-dev-bounces@lists.libre-riscv.org +Sender: "libre-riscv-dev" + + +--===============1554574548999933317== +Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; + boundary="=-eeuK1rpHwsvYRkOYgnNX" + + +--=-eeuK1rpHwsvYRkOYgnNX +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 17:13 +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: +> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:45 PM Jean-Paul Chaput +> wrote: +>=20 +> > The main reason here is still the lack of time. But there may be +> > another problem. My python interface allow to mirror in Python +> > the C++ function overload, but Python only allows one set of +> > parameters, is that true or I'm lagging on Python features again? +> > So how to describe a function with more than one parameter set? +>=20 +> ah. +>=20 +> right. with all the other things, i am going to focus on this one. +> it is a major, serious failing in the ENTIRETY of the free software +> community to COMPLETELY fail to comprehend this one, absolutely +> critical thing. +>=20 +> microsoft DCOM got it right (co-classes). as a result i was the ONLY +> PERSON IN THE WORLD - i checked, emailing the IEXPLORE developer and +> he kindly replied - to use the full power of IEXPLORE.DLL DCOM +> bindings from python-comtypes. and by "full power" i mean "all 300 +> objects, all 2,000+ functions, and all 20,000 properties". +>=20 +> the only reason that was possible - including the c++ functions which +> had multiple overloads - was because of a property of DCOM called +> "co-classes". +>=20 +> when the Mozilla Foundation decided "oh! we! know! we! will copy! +> DCOM! and call it! XPCOM! it'll be great!" they did NOT copy +> co-classes, and consequently fucked EVERYONE around for the next 15 +> years who tried to develop third party xulrunner applications. + + Funny, I remember well a student a while ago telling me that + I should use XUL to write the graphical interface of Coriolis. + I was already feeling like an old shmuck with my Qt...=20 + + +> so if you *have* successfully mirrored multiple c++ function-overloads +> into python, GREAT! congratulations, you are amongst an absolute tiny +> minority of programmers who have comprehended this, where the majority +> are in systematic pathological failure and mental melt-down. + + I did write it a long time ago, it is too complicated for what it + does. You can see an example in the PyHorizontal.cpp file and + look at PyHorizontal_create(). It is very dumb and tedious + programming. I intend to review it thoroughly when migrating + to Python 3. Basically it build the "signature" of the function + and is followed by a big "if" afterwards. + The Python "wrapper" is not something I'm very proud of as it + is only a big bunch of C macros. I'm not happy with the *way* + the code is generated, but on the other hand, I am happy with + the *generated* code and the fact that I can finely tune it. + I will try to make a more intensive use of C++ templates. + But not as much as in Boost as it becomes very, very slow to + compile (it's the reason why the Qt team abandoned it in favor + of another interface generator). + +--=20 + + .-. 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