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+<h1>Mailing Lists</h1>
-<H1>Mailing Lists</H1>
+<p>There are four Mesa 3D / DRI mailing lists:
+</p>
-<p>There are four Mesa mailing lists:</p>
<ul>
-<li><b>mesa3d-users</b> - intended for users of the Mesa library.
-Newbie questions are appropriate, but please try reading the Mesa documentation first.
-</li><li><b>mesa3d-dev</b> - intended for developers of the Mesa library.
-This is not for beginners.
-</li><li><b>mesa3d-cvs</b> - CVS check-in messages are sent to this list.
-This is useful for tracking ongoing development changes.
-</li><li><b>mesa3d-announce</b> - announcements of new Mesa versions are sent to this list.
-</li></ul>
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-users">mesa-users</a>
+- intended for end-users of Mesa and DRI drivers. Newbie questions are OK,
+but please try the general OpenGL resources and Mesa/DRI documentation first.</p>
+</li>
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev">mesa-dev</a>
+- for Mesa, Gallium and DRI development
+discussion. Not for beginners.</p>
+</li>
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-commit">mesa-commit</a>
+- relays git check-in messages (for developers).
+In general, people should not post to this list.</p>
+</li>
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-announce">mesa-announce</a>
+- announcements of new Mesa
+versions are sent to this list. Very low traffic.</p>
+</li>
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/piglit">piglit</a>
+- for Piglit (OpenGL driver testing framework) discussion.</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
<p>
-To subscribe or unsubscribe, go to the
-<a href="http://www.sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3" target="_parent">
-SourceForge lists page.</a>
+<b>NOTE</b>: You <b>must</b> subscribe to these lists in order to post to them.
+If you try to post to a list and you're not a subscriber (or if you try to post
+from a different email address than you subscribed with) your posting will be
+held for an indefinite period or may be discarded entirely.
</p>
-<p>The mailing lists are managed by SourceForge. If you're having trouble
-with the mailing lists please contact the SourceForge administrators for help.</p>
-
-<p>Archives of the old Mesa mailing list which was hosted by unicamp.br
-are available <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mesa/messages/">here</a>.</p>
-
<p>
-Here are some other OpenGL-related forums you might find useful:
+Follow the links above for list archives.
</p>
<p>
-Usenet newsgroups:
-<ul>
-<li>comp.graphics.algorithms
-<li>comp.graphics.api.opengl
-<li>comp.os.linux.x
-</ul>
+The old Mesa lists hosted at SourceForge are no longer in use.
+The archives are still available, however:
+<a href="https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mesa3d-announce">mesa3d-announce</a>,
+<a href="https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mesa3d-users">mesa3d-users</a>,
+<a href="https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mesa3d-dev">mesa3d-dev</a>.
+</p>
+
+
+<p>For mailing lists about Direct Rendering Modules (drm) in Linux/BSD
+kernels, see the
+<a href="https://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MailingLists">DRI wiki</a>.
+</p>
+
+
+<h2>IRC</h2>
+
+<p>join <a href="irc://chat.freenode.net#dri-devel">#dri-devel channel</a>
+on <a href="https://webchat.freenode.net/">irc.freenode.net</a>
</p>
+
+<h2>OpenGL Forums</h2>
+
<p>
-<a href="http://www.opengl.org/">OpenGL discussion forums</A> at www.opengl.org
+Here are some other OpenGL-related forums you might find useful:
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+<li><a href="https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/">OpenGL discussion forums</a>
+at www.opengl.org</li>
+<li>Usenet newsgroups:
+<ul>
+<li>comp.graphics.algorithms</li>
+<li>comp.graphics.api.opengl</li>
+<li>comp.os.linux.x</li>
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