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+<h1>Mailing Lists</h1>
<p>There are four Mesa 3D / DRI mailing lists:
</p>
<ul>
-<li><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-announce"
-target="_parent">mesa3d-announce</a> - announcements of new Mesa
-versions are sent to this list.
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-users">mesa-users</a>
+- intended for end-users of Mesa and DRI drivers. Newbie questions are OK,
+but please try the general OpenGL resources and Mesa/DRI documentation first.</p>
+</li>
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev">mesa-dev</a>
+- for Mesa, Gallium and DRI development
+discussion. Not for beginners.</p>
</li>
-<br>
-<li><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-users"
-target="_parent">mesa3d-users</a> - intended for users of the Mesa and DRI.
-Newbie questions are appropriate, but please try the general OpenGL
-resources and Mesa/DRI documentation first.
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-commit">mesa-commit</a>
+- relays git check-in messages (for developers).
+In general, people should not post to this list.</p>
</li>
-<br>
-<li><a href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev"
-target="_parent">mesa3d-dev</a> - for discussion of Mesa and Direct Rendering
-Infrastructure development. Not for beginners.
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-announce">mesa-announce</a>
+- announcements of new Mesa
+versions are sent to this list. Very low traffic.</p>
</li>
-<br>
-<li><a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-commit"
-target="_parent">mesa-commit</a> - relays git check-in messages
-(for developers).
-<br>
-Note: the old mesa3d-cvs list is no longer in use.
+<li><p><a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/piglit">piglit</a>
+- for Piglit (OpenGL driver testing framework) discussion.</p>
</li>
</ul>
-<p>For mailing lists about Direct Rendering Modules (drm) in Linux/BSD
-kernels, see <a href="http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MailingLists">wiki</a>.
+<p>
+<b>NOTE</b>: You <b>must</b> subscribe to these lists in order to post to them.
+If you try to post to a list and you're not a subscriber (or if you try to post
+from a different email address than you subscribed with) your posting will be
+held for an indefinite period or may be discarded entirely.
+</p>
+
+<p>
+Follow the links above for list archives.
+</p>
<p>
-<b>Notice</b>: non-member posts to any of these lists will be automatically
-rejected.
+The old Mesa lists hosted at SourceForge are no longer in use.
+The archives are still available, however:
+<a href="https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mesa3d-announce">mesa3d-announce</a>,
+<a href="https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mesa3d-users">mesa3d-users</a>,
+<a href="https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mesa3d-dev">mesa3d-dev</a>.
</p>
-<br>
+<p>For mailing lists about Direct Rendering Modules (drm) in Linux/BSD
+kernels, see the
+<a href="https://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MailingLists">DRI wiki</a>.
+</p>
+
+
+<h2>IRC</h2>
+
+<p>join <a href="irc://chat.freenode.net#dri-devel">#dri-devel channel</a>
+on <a href="https://webchat.freenode.net/">irc.freenode.net</a>
+</p>
+
-<H1>OpenGL Forums</H1>
+<h2>OpenGL Forums</h2>
<p>
Here are some other OpenGL-related forums you might find useful:
</p>
<ul>
-<li><a href="http://www.opengl.org/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi"
-target="_parent">OpenGL discussion forums</A> at www.opengl.org</li>
+<li><a href="https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/">OpenGL discussion forums</a>
+at www.opengl.org</li>
<li>Usenet newsgroups:
<ul>
<li>comp.graphics.algorithms</li>
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